Looks as though someone from The Zeitgeist Movement was upset over a recent posting at James Kush's blog about a peer reviewed study that showed that TZM was "conspirituality" or a new age conspiracy religion. So they took it upon themselves to have the whole site shut down and VTV posted this picture shortly after.
This is in stark contrast to their claims that they want a "free and open society" and opposed all forms of censorship. I already knew this when they false flagged my video "The End of The Zeitgeist Movement" for "hate speech." (Mirror: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfDcnDZFias) Which is kind of funny because it's not a sexual orientation or a race, so perhaps this is TZM affirming it is a religion.
Nothing of value was lost. I have been told by James Kush that he regularly backs up the site and it will be back up very soon on it's own domain to prevent further abuse.
So strolling around on YouTube for crazy videos I stumbled on this on the TZMOfficialChannel ... channel.
Apparently TZM was invited to The New World Fair. OK, what's that?
I think everyone had that grandpa or great grandpa who talked about that crazy thing they saw/did at the 1945 World's Fair. If not, go vist an old folk's home and chat it up with some of the blue haired beauties and they'll tell you all about it. They stopped calling it the World's Fair and started calling in Expo in 1967 an apparently continues to this day.
Since there's still a sence of nostalgia attached to the name, a bunch of crazy moonbats and new-agers got together and started up a "New" World Fair. Now yesterday I knew nothing about this but apparently it's been going on for a while now and the next ones in in New York and TZM got invited. Already that speaks volumes to the credibility.
So doing a little invistigation I started looking into what's going to be going on there and boy does this sound like a Loonyfest
EXHIBITS:
I don't even know what to say other than you need to see this for yourself. It's just a word salad list of all the new agey words in the dictionary.
SPEAKERS
Luana DeAngelis: "Luana DeAngelis is Founder and Director of You Can Thrive! Foundation, a large utopian version of the future of health care. " What? Apparently this place is a new age healing center that cures diseases by meditation, yoga, eating vegetables, aligning your chakras, spanking the pudd..etc. This is so not a scam. *ahem*
Andrew Norton Webber: A nut bar who thinks drinking your piss will cure everything including AIDS.
Dina Vitantonio; A horsey faced Sarah Jessica Parker lookalike who runs a quack healing outfit that uses the "energy" from crystals, alligning you chakras, medication, yoga, martial arts, Reiki, Tao and all kinds of other new age nonsense.
Russ Baker: An investigative journalist who I know nothing about nor can I tell anything about him on his site.
Bill Still: The guy who made the notoriously incorrect films The Money Masters and The Secrets of Oz
Adam Kokesh: A libertarian activist but noted 9/11 Truther and conspiracy theorist. His buddy, Luke Rudowski a key person in the conspiracy activist group We Are Change.
Webster Griffin Tarpley: Conspiracy nut and former LaRouche cultist who thinks everything in a false flag operation.
Susan Lindauer: A crazy bitch who decided to be a spy for the Iraqi Government but was declaired mentally unfit for trial. The charges were dropped later but she still claims she knew about 9/11 in advance, worked for the CIA and other nutty adventures.
Vashisht Vaid: New age crank that rambles about expanding consciousnesses, esoteric knowledge, vortex of energies, and other new age meaningless psychobabble.
Jonathan Talat Philips: A new agey religious blogger for HuffPo who wrote a play called "The Ayahuasca Monologues"
FILMS
I won't list all of them but I'll list some of the highlights:
Food Beware: A film about how we should all eat organic local foods even hough ir will just result in more expensive food and less of it.
The Future of Food: Morgan Spurlock tells us GMO good is bad and Organic is good. Crap.
Supercharge This!: A wannabe SuperSize Me movie about raw foodism.
The Beautiful Earth: There's a conspiracy to keep the cure from cancer known by big pharma but somehow they forgot to cover up this movie.
2012 A Time for Change: A new age Mayan Calender Doomsday movie with a twist; it's going to be a good thing.
A few other 2012 movies...
Zeitgeist: Moving Forward. A debunked movie about a Utopian form of social restructuring.
The Boy With Divine Powers: About a guy who is Buddha reincarnate. I didn't know Buddha slapped people and had his followers kidnapped women. He's also a fraud.
What in the World Are They Spraying? LOLCHEMTRAILS! Chemtrail nuttery movie. Nuff' said.
Freedom To Fascism: One of the conspiracy movies I used to like long ago. It's crap. A lot of inaccurate claims about the history of the fed, lot of bogus quotes used. Also sorry, you have to pay income taxes.
Kymatica/Esoteric Agenda. It's like a new age Zeitgiest on crack. One of the most insufferable conspiracy nut videos I ever watched.
If my Grandfather were alive today, they would be facepalming the very notion that the World Fair had turned into this shit.
--- UPDATE! I already issued an update and this post is only 2 hours old! See below --
Calling VTV a liar is like saying the sky is blue; we all already know it's true and it's a waste of breath saying it. There are some people still in TZM who think he's a cool dude just because his radio show agrees with their ideology and he was a former administrator of the TZM Forums.
I'm just going to give you a quick taste of how dishonest this guy is, because it's important for members of TZM still giving this guy resources to represent them to know how much damage he's doing to their group. For full disclosure I haven't been very nice to TZM in the public arena but consider this to be another olive branch I give to you when I say you need to walk away from this guy.
Now for those of you who haven't been following the news, VTV is representing TZM in the Rick Ross forums. He is defending TZM from accusations of it being a cult. I went there and said I do not think it is a cult but needs to have an eye kept on as it in the future becomes smaller and more radicalized. I have always defended TZM not being a cult but have heed the warning that it's somewhat close in many respects but mostly benign.
VTV is doing more than the lion share of the work convincing people that TZM is a cult. He's used "us and them" language, he has demonstrated to the forum he's willing to lie about the rules of the TZM forums, he has demonstrated that the group has 'apostates' and that they are demonized after leaving...etc. Most importantly he's representing himself as some what of a leader and is blatantly lying and engaging in character assassination to this community of cult researchers. These people know the red flags of cults and VTV is waving them high and proud and I think it's fucked up and it's fucked up to TZM.
...but I digress.
VTV said something I will not even bother responding to on the thread there that is deliberately misleading. He's tried twisting thing a while back, it failed then and I won't even allow it to go though the same steps of fail again on the thread because it's not the appropriate avenue for Mr. Ross' forum. We've already shown that VTV has used this quote of mine (pun intended) to try and make it look like I'm saying Mario and Kush are intentionally dishonest.
He quotes me as saying:
"I will admit this: I have seen Mario use very sensational and sometimes misleading titles for his videos and blogs. I have seen Kush publish information that turned out inaccurate when new evidence has surfaced. I can't speak for the occult aspects of it as I am not well versed in occultism. (note: occult isn't a cult)"
He omits the last sentence, and does so for a very important reason, because it's a quote mine to make Kush and Mario look bad.
I will admit this:
I have seen Mario use very sensational and sometimes misleading titles for his videos and blogs. I have seen Kush publish information that turned out inaccurate when new evidence has surfaced. I can't speak for the occult aspects of it as I am not well versed in occultism. (note: occult isn't a cult) I can not say in good faith they are deliberately dishonest as you clearly are.
Because they aren't dishonest and VTV is, that is what I was saying. Mario in the past has used sensational and misleading titles for his videos. SomethingSea1 made a video pointing this out and Mario went though all of his videos and re-titled them all, and he has been more careful since. Kush being wrong ex-post is not lying is what he was saying was true ex-ante. Would you call sports casters predicting a certain a team winning before the start of a game liars because the teams lost? No, nor should you expect Kush to have a crystal ball and be privy to all the facts in the universe. I was stating people make mistakes, VTV doesn't make mistakes because he's too busy intentionally lying.
I know this is where VTV was going because this isn't the first time he's tried to use this quote against me. Last time he failed miserably trying to show this as me admitting Kush and Mario are liars, but he can never admit he was mistaken because he's a narcissist.
"And since there is no evidence to verify this yet we are expected to believe you. You are basically asking us to trust a known liar [you Neil] on his word."
And you have yet to prove that I am a known liar at all.
Yet people here have already admitted that even they have seen that James Kush lies on his blog. :)
"Yet people here have already admitted that even they have seen that James Kush lies on his blog. :)"
Noone said any such thing, what was said by jim jesus was that James Kush makes mistakes and then has to rectify it after evidence contrary to the initial posts surfaces.
Dont try and stretch peoples comments here into something they did not say.
VTV tries to affirm that he was not trying to twist my words and conveniently omits that last sentence to quote mine me.
Anti-cultist, this was said earlier by Jim Jesus:
"I will admit this:
I have seen Mario use very sensational and sometimes misleading titles for his videos and blogs. I have seen Kush publish information that turned out inaccurate when new evidence has surfaced. I can't speak for the occult aspects of it as I am not well versed in occultism. (note: occult isn't a cult)"
So yes, someone said such a thing. :)
You said someone said James Kush lies on his blog.
Noone said any such thing even that quote you just supplied doesnt say it, so the only person saying it here is you.
That's pretty much it, VTV is trying to quote mine me at the Rick Ross Institute Forums to show that Kush is a liar. I didn't say he's a liar. Never hinted it, never insinuated it, never implied it. The only thing I was saying is that mistakes are made, but that doesn't make them a liar like VTV.
---------- UPDATE ------------
VTV got so angry at the latest blogs exposing him by James Kush that he hopped on a proxy and posted as "LibertyGirl" then when he got called out, he stated pretending to be "Anonymous" and getting mad over 'Zeitfags' even though Anons have always called thing -fags for years. (i.e. Christfags, scifags, furfags, moralfags...etc)
So I am officially announcing the return of The Jim Jesus Show. It will be a live call in show with podcasts after. The show will be Saturday 12-2 and longer if people keep calling. The show will be mostly regarding skepticism, debunking conspiracy theories, current events, and cults. This will not be an economics or political show. There's plenty of other people doing that show, call them. This will be almost combat radio, so if you disagree with me, you will get priority call placement.
Now the official launch date has not been set. We're still working out the technical aspects of the show. But we plan to have both a skype and a traditional phone call in number. If you're interested in participating in the test shows please leave a comment below, hit me up on Twitter or Facebook. If you get a moment, go ahead and give one of these a call and leave a voicemail. If it's good, I'll incorporate it into a bumper or intro!
-- UPDATE --
This project is on hold for a few months while I get ready and started for school. I'll post a fresh entry when I get things going again.
Every time Douglas Mallette opens his mouth something stupid falls out. It's pretty much safe to say any time he makes a claim, you can bet it's wrong or self defeating. Which is why I don't believe (along with the Swedish Press exposes of him) that he was really an engineer on the Space Shuttle Program. I doubt NASA would really hire people this stupid.
Exibit: A
The reason why we don't hear about these trains crashing is for 2 reasons:
1. Because they are in other countries and unless you're watching their news, it's hardly relevant to the US. So we rarely cover it.
2. Train wrecks aren't that common period.
But is there any evidence that bullet trains crash less or are more safe? No. In fact one of the most deadly train crashes of all time was Eschede bullet train disaster where over 101 people died and 88 others were injured. To add insult to injury, there was only 287 people on the train making a majority. Another German high speeder 26th of April in 2008 causing some injuries because sheep were standing on the rail
In China last year lightning struck the rail lines and caused a power outrage to the line causing 2 trains to collide and 6 to derail. 40 people died and it raised questions on how safe the rail likes were.
They are every bit as dangerous as regular trains and to say "A lot of the cost is making them safe" is misleading because it leads you to believe that other trains disregard safety which is simply untrue. A lot of money is spent making rail lines safe with our without high speed rail.
Another commented pointed out that yes, the state has made it illegal to compete with Amtrak.
Exibit: B
After Zeitgeist Movement Exposed ran an article about his plan to bring about a RBE like test city for nudists, Doug posted this:
I can only speak for myself, but I don’t ‘troll’ Zeitgiesters. I just critique their movement and because they are so wrapped up in their ideology they get angry when someone points out it’s shortcomings (and there are many.) So because they get angry, they think that’s something I do intentionally. No. Get off your high horse and realize we have shit to say, don’t be like these Scientology nutters who disregard everyone who disagrees as “suppressive people.” It’s milieu control, and it’s sick. Knock it off. Your ideology isn’t that bulletproof.
The funny thing isn’t the nudism. This is why we all think you’re a bit slower than you lead people on to believe. The funny thing is that you want to make this nudist resort as “RBE styled” and will be “like the first city.” That is what’s funny. It has nothing to do with social “programming” (which is a debunked and discredited theory.) This is as stupid as you saying Skeptic Project/Conspiracy Science crew as people who believe in NWO Agenda 21 nonsense when the whole point of that site to debunk such conspiracies. There is nothing wrong with nudists, except for the people who go there. Bunch of fat and fugly old people playing volleyball naked.
You don’t help people. You beg for money to travel the world for paid talking gigs about your stupid pot Ferris wheel that wastes more resources than horizontal farming. That’s not helping people, that’s participating in circle jerks. No, that’s not a pun. We know sexual activity is banned from nudists resorts.
I could care less about attention. If I did, I’d still be making anti-Zeitgeister videos and I haven’t made any since last year. You guys are a circus, so don’t criticize me when I watch you clowns running around and getting a giggle out of it.
Seriously.. RBE Nudist Resort? How am I not supposed to laugh at that? Better yet, how are Zeitgiesters not supposed to laugh? Jesus Christ, seriously I thought you were late for an April Fool’s prank.
But what makes this post really stupid is it's essentially saying is "I don't care what you have to say, but I'm going to read it and respond to it here for all to see that I do care"
For those of you who've been following my Twitter I've been after an internet cult of personality with a political agenda. No not TZM, they're pretty much dead and we'll get another glimpse of that this weekend when they open the coffin for another peek of the whole corpse. I'm talking about this KONY 2012 bullshit.
DISCLAIMER - LET ME STATE RIGHT HERE AND NOW SO YOU UNDERSTAND ME: I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A SCAM, IT'S NOT A SCAM. THAT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE THING TO SAY AND COULD OPEN THE DOOR TO ALL KINDS OF LITIGATION AGAINST ME! I WILL SAY THAT I THINK IT'S A PILE OF ALIEN ZEBRA SHIT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW ALIEN ZEBRA SHIT (or AZS for short) STUPID VIRAL VIDEOS THAT BEGS FOR MONEY!
Now that we got that out of the way I want to expose why this is a total AZS in a few key points for you to quickly understand, unlike the video, and get back to reality.
1. Kony is a monster, but a very little and outdated one. There's no question that Joseph Kony is an asshole. He did kidnap kids, his army did rape and loot and pillage, all that bad stuff. He started this 26 years ago. When I was still a baby and before most of the KONY 2012 sycophants were even born. His violent military cult, LRA (Lord's Resistance Army) has been largely inactive for the last 6 years and dissipated into other areas where they don't do much. Kony was a bad man, and is now in hiding in another country. It's clear though various government intelligence that Kony himself is no longer in Uganda and might very well be dead. So making him famous is a task that will go nowhere and might even turn out to be a 100% waste of time if he's dead, as to a 95% waste of time if he's not.
People thing they got the whole African situation figured out because a AZS video landed on YouTube with some very laid out emotional propaganda and little facts. What facts they do lay out are overly simplified and out of date and in words for a child to understand. This is not how you relate complex geopolitical problems to the public, especially if it's wrong. Which it is.
2. War is not the answer. The film makes it very clear that we should urge our congress critters to use military force in Uganda to capture Kony. Now for a lot of kids that like KONY 2012 that means that we will send our troops to Uganda where they will prance in the daisies holding hands with the African children until they catch the big bad wolf and then a large parade will commence as the put the wolf in a cage and parade him around and everyone is happy. That's not the way it works. There will be guns, there will be jets, there will be violence, there will be bombs, there will be gunfire because these are the tools of the military. You can't expect a tool like the military to have a new function like you can't expect a hammer to also serve as a screwdriver. You are advocating a war which comes with the whole package. The LRA will not turn over or comply peacefully. They are religiously motivated and will die for their cause and kill our troops as well.
If you think the Iraq war was bullshit, you can't be for a police action in Uganda. If you do, you are a hypocrite because the mission is identical except Kony isn't the leader of a state.
3. Ugandans don't want us there. African regions have a long history of violence and bloodshed. You can't fix it by sending western people to join in the violence and bloodshed NOR DO THEY WANT US TO. The Ugandan people have been pretty vocal about KONY 2012 and it's been overwhelming opposition. When Ugandans tell you "Don't worry about Kony, we have it under control" that should be a red flag right there.
4. Making Kony famous will do jack shit. Yay, now more people know about him. So what? Africa knows about him, he's not news like he was to use a week ago. This has been around for 26 years. He is famous there. Unless you plan on having US citizens go wander around Africa, this will not do anything. Sorry. Like all the Facebook links, RT every tweet, he's not getting anymore famous there. You could point to Iran but I would just argue 2 points about that. One, it was current events, not 6 year old information not applicable then, and two, the retweets had information for the Iranians to help fight back including police warnings and proxy lists. So no, you're wrong.
5. Invisible Children is a giant emotional propaganda AZS producing organization. Now when people say 'propaganda' they usually mean bits of information they disagree with for mass consumption. It's just a derogatory word. However in this case it's not. This is a well crafted manipulative video that isn't designed to give you any valid information, it's there to play on your emotions. Even more so than Zeitgeist movies. It all focuses on this guy and his crotch fruit showing his emotions and that kid from Africa crying. From start to finish it was just tugging your heart strings not giving you information like a documentary should.
So when you buy their stupid "action kit" you send them 30 bucks. 9 bucks goes to the 'cause' and the other 21 dollars goes to buying them tickets to fly around the world, stay and nice hotels, eat good food, buy them nice cars...etc. This is based on their tax forms. Now they put out a statement saying "Well yes, charities have overhead" which is AZS in it's own right. No charity has that much overhead. Charities pride themselves on keeping overhead as low as possible and try to stay under 30% where as Invisible Children think it's the other way around.
There's plenty of great (not just good) charities that help out Africa. Red Cross and (RED) are 2 good ones of the top of my head. Invisible Children just seems like I'm enriching the lives of white American hipsters more than helping poor African children. Especially since most of the 30% doesn't ... actually this needs it's own number.
6. If you support Kony 2012, you support kidnapping children and gang rape. "The enemy of my enemy is not my friend." When you give money to Invisible Children, some of that 30% goes to the Ugandan and Sudanese Army which are no strangers to atrocities. These groups picked up the ball where Kony left off. In fact, the government of Uganda is the same government is currently trying to pass a law making it a crime punishable by death to be gay. This army will be the ones who will enforce it. This army has been known and is well documented that they find young women and girls and gang rape them sometimes to the brink of death. The Sudan armies pale them in comparison even kidnapping children for recruiting.
So yes, by supporting KONY 2012 you are actually doing more harm to Uganda than not sending money. Who knew some cheesy cheap bracelets could help cause such chaos and destruction. If you lost money to this, demand it back. Send back your action kit and demand a refund. You won't get it but it will send a message. But I hoped you learned a valuable lesson from this as most people who joined TZM did, you just can't watch a video and think you got life all sorted out because you laughed and cried at the right parts. Life is complex and can't be summed up in a video with cool editing and effects. The things you support have other implications that are never presented to you in them and consider your 30 bucks a lesson well learned.
Remember, kids. The Zeitgeist Movement isn't dying. They are getting exponentially bigger every year. Don't let the 'trolls' and 'disinfo shills' tell you otherwise. Here's proof that more people, not less, are interested in Zeitgeist.
Z-Day 2010
Z-Day 2011
Z-Day 2012
You see, less events means more people. at the events. OK? JimJesus/Machwon, James Kush, Mario Brotha, Anon2AllOfUs, Muertos/RonOfTheDead (who is the same gubermint shapeshifter) and JustinTempler are all liars.
